Wasanelder Once

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  Confidentiality. Confidentiality. Confidentiality. RC Hearing Day 5

  by passwordprotected in

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  confidentiality.

  how many times does ron de rooy state the importance of jehovah's witnesses being confidential?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucn5azi5gk&index=17&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.

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  "My understanding is that the elders look at an accuser as being someone who asked for it or did something to provoke the abuse and therefore, has responsibility. Is this true for child abuse? I have read that it is but maybe not in all cases? Can any elders or former elders on here clarify this?"

  Heaven: That was never my experience. If it is elsewhere I'll let others answer. Never was any accuser disbelieved in my experience. It always came down to the same thing De Rooy experienced, believed but innactionable due to "the Holy Bible" not giving credence to one witness. There should be exemptions for one on one crime.

  Its like a child being asked, "Did you take the last cookie?" and they say "no". You can tell the child did it regardless of the answer. Two elders will ask the accused, "did you do this?" and if they say "no", its over. There will be no further investigation if there is only the victim who speaks. It's sick.
  
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  Australian RC - Hot topic

  by punkofnice in

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  i have listened to segments of the hearing.. i am really impressed with the way the rc are well informed about jw procedure and the 'flock book'.. does anyone know how the rc got so clued up?

  are they just that good at what they do?

  (not saying they're not).. have 'mentally diseased apostates(tm)' been of use to the rc?.

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  Even without intent I am sure the victims educated them with Theospeak repeatedly used. All witnesses tend to use it because it is their language. Once the lawyers heard words such as; "reproof", "private reproof", "restrictions", "reinstated", "Service Desk", "Legal Desk" and others, they would be moved to find out how these all play in the world of JW's. So as a natural progression they have educated themselves in the Theospeak of these bumblers and have had the strength of character and desire to expose the pain the WT has inflicted on others. Go RC!
  
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  Confidentiality. Confidentiality. Confidentiality. RC Hearing Day 5

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  confidentiality.

  how many times does ron de rooy state the importance of jehovah's witnesses being confidential?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucn5azi5gk&index=17&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.

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  Any starting point in the 40 mins for that exchange? It would help to know. Thanks.
  
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  ... and keep fighting

  by nevaagain in

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  2. friends

  last week we had the cos visit and i wanted to share my experiences with you.

  some background info on me, i knowttatt and am fully awake, my wife also knows my doubts and read a few things on the internet but she is still 100% commited to the truth, saying everything on the apostate sites are lies.

  so right now i am in just to keep the status quo.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Two of the elders who testified before the commission, Rooy and Bowditch, admitted their true feelings on matters apart from WT standards but did not act on them.
  

  Rooy said he believed BCG's claims of abuse and was angry despite the 2 witness rule.
  

  Bowditch said he would tell a worldly friend about the abuser to protect his family if the abuser was disfellowshipped.

  Neither would protect fellow congregants but still felt the correct feelings in opposition to WT policy. Therefore it doesn't surprise me that the substitute CO would be so pissed and shocked to say something. I don't think he has to be on the way out to do so. I hope the substitute CO will be on the way out once the regular CO attempts to shut down his human kindness in defense of the WT juggernaut.
  

  Neither of those two Aussie elders are on the way out, just unable to acknowledge the correctness of their outrage to any advantage to themselves or others.
  
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  Another Elder has developed amnesia.

  by umbertoecho in

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  2. scandals

  the elder just being questioned is yet another sly manufacturer of deceit and the use of theocratic warfare.. how can these men say the can't remember when it's their own letters, their own implemented policies.

  hell, it's their own books and magazines the commission is using, along with internal letters etc.

  another dry mouth there........as he sat up all alone and experienced first hand the faith building experience of ....speaking with a thick tongue as all his juices dried up.........

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  I said this on another thread: Rooy says he was "sickened at what BCPerv did to his daughter as any father would be, BUT he can't remember what he was told" was done by BCPerv. He believed BCG when she said BCPerv did whatever he can't recall but couldn't act on because the Bible tells him not to. He, of course, was outraged by whatever it was. Would this make him more merciful than Jehovah who inspired the 2 witness rule? I bet you a million dollars he can remember eating hoagies at the conventions, now that's something memorable! Much more than the details of a child rape spoken in tears by a mother and her daughter to his face!
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  Just wrote my DA letter....

  by dubstepped in

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  2. friends

  my wife and i planned on fading but the elders now want a shepherding call and we are just done.

  i know that many play the game to try to stay in, but i'm not a game player and neither is my wife.

  our families already shun us because we reached out to a disfellowshipped family member.

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  Cut and run! Congrats.
  
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  Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!

  by possum in

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  2. child-abuse

  august.

  mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

  public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.

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  Rooy says he was "sickened at what BCPerv did to his daughter as any father would be, BUT he can't remember what he was told" was done by BCPerv. He believed BCG when she said BCPerv did whatever he can't recall but couldn't act on it because the Bible tells him not to. He, of course, was outraged by whatever it was. Would this make him more merciful than Jehovah who inspired the 2 witness rule? I bet you a million dollars he can remember eating hoagies at the conventions, now that's something memorable! Much more than the details of a child rape spoken in tears by a mother and her daughter!
  
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  Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!

  by possum in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  august.

  mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

  public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.

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  Its as if this ass were trying to make the council understand, "But he was repentant, he was repentant. There would be no danger! We Holy Spirited him and gave him council from Jehovah. Not a problem." What a piece of crap. And Like Ollie North, "I have no recollection of that". Lying ahole.
  
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  Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!

  by possum in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  august.

  mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

  public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.

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  What a son of a bitch that Rooys fool is! Lying piece of crap!
  
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  Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?

  do you feel personally vindicated by it?

  do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?

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  Wasanelder Once

  Damn straight Mrs. Flipper. We may not get them out but we can do our best to keep them from going in!